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    April 24, 2018 3:54 AM EDT

    Counterfeit Jersey Thread

    Apparently this trend is not limited to my experience either, as evidenced by previous comments. In hockey, I haven't seen fakes at Penguins games until nfl team shop recently, post reebok switch when price structures changed and the difference between replicas and authentics became noticeable. In my opinion, and I'll admit I have an anti corporate bias, it would seem that the jersey companies need to lower their prices or risk becoming quaint "higher quality" versions of the fakes that only the wealthy and snobbish buy. The market is speaking, and they don't seem to care to listen. Very interesting.

    I have a pretty big jersey collection, and two or three of them are counterfeit. No matter if it's supporting the wrong cause, or it's criminal, or whatever you want to call it, spending $30 on a jersey that is so close to an authentic that most won't even notice (and those who do have to look pretty close) is a much smarter investment than spending nearly $80 on a cheap screen printed shirt that'll fall apart in the wash in less than a year. You can knock counterfeit jerseys all you want, I still find it to be less criminal than the prices they charge for the real ones.

    But this isn't true at all. It's super easy for uni freaks like CCSLC members to spot these fakes. The numbers and letters really are that bad. You can spot them a mile away, especially for teams that have anything more than standard block fonts.

    FYP. Most of the general public will never notice the difference.

    Whatever one's position on this, someone pointed out an ironic truth in another thread where this was debated: the "authentic" $250 300 version of these jerseys probably comes from the factory down the street from the one doing the fakes, the difference being that the authentics are put together better and subjected to more QC than the fakes. The employees are likely working in the same conditions and making the same 20 cents an hour or whatever.

    We'll never know the one variable that would enable me to finalize my position: the NFL's cost to produce an authentic. Their markup has to be ridiculous.

    I have a pretty big jersey collection, and two or three of them are counterfeit. No matter if it's supporting the wrong cause, or it's criminal, or whatever you want to call it, spending $30 on a jersey that is so close to an authentic that most won't even notice (and those who do have to look pretty close) is a much smarter investment than spending nearly $80 on a cheap screen printed shirt that'll fall apart in the wash in less than a year. You can knock counterfeit jerseys all you want, I still find it to be less criminal than the prices they charge for the real ones.

    The NFL charges too much for a terrible product and the market has responded accordingly. There are tons of free market warriors on this board I would imagine this would be example A of how markets work. Chinese manufacturers have provided an alternative to the official, overpriced NFL jerseys (and we're only talking about the terrible replicas) and, given the attendees at NFL games, people are buying them. I guess the NFL is still making enough on their official versions not to care, but I wonder how long that will be the case.

    I'll also say that you don't see this same problem as much with other sports. This is in part due to popularity of the NFL, but I think it has more to do with price. NHL replicas are pretty close in quality to the real thing and are a better value at nfl shop cheap jerseys their price point. NBA authentics seem kind of pointless to me and replicas are good enough. I don't know enough about MLB replicas, but they seem to be more or less in the same boat as the NHL.

    The NFL charges too much for a terrible product and the market has responded accordingly. There are tons of free market warriors on this board I would imagine this would be example A of how markets work.

    Except counterfeiters are not responding to the demand via legal means. One can be "pro free market" and still see the legal and moral problems with counterfeit jerseys.

    grown men shouldnt wear jerseys anyway.

    Thanks for the insight Mr. Blackwell.

    Wear what you want, but he's got a point. Everytime I see a grown buy cheap nfl jerseys a$$ man in a jersey (especially a customized one) I just think he's some big kid who is imagining that he's actually on the team by putting on the jersey, like he's fulfilling some childhood fantasy. It's all a big game of pretend. If you're actually at the game, maybe you get a pass, but it's still kind of corny for adults to wear the jerseys of other adults.

    Ice_Cap's guide to wearing sports jerseys.

    1) Only acceptable when at a game or watching a game, or if you're out the day/night of a game. You just look silly wearing a jersey when you're out grocery shopping. Just my opinion, but you do.

    2) Wearing a jersey with your own name/number is only acceptable if you're age 10 or younger.

    3) Blank jerseys are preferred over jerseys with the name/number of a player, but that latter is still acceptable.

    We'll never know the one variable that would enable me to finalize my position: the NFL's cost to produce an authentic. Their markup has to be ridiculous.

    This is my sticking point as well. Artificially high mark ups are just as unethical as outright counterfitting. Besides, it's hard to feel for these same "privately owned" sports franchises that play in taxpayer funded palaces.

    And they really can't cost that much to produce. When I was growing up there were tons of places that would make "authentic" Packers jerseys for cheaper than what you can buy a licensed replica for now.

    Ice_Cap's guide to wearing sports jerseys.

    1) Only acceptable when at a game or watching a game, or if you're out the day/night of a game. You just look silly wearing a jersey when you're out grocery shopping. Just my opinion, but you do.

    2) Wearing a jersey with your own name/number is only acceptable if you're age 10 or younger.

    3) Blank jerseys are preferred over jerseys with the name/number of a player, but that latter is still acceptable.

    1) Agreed.

    2) I make an exception if the customization is something that would CLEARLY never make it on the field/floor/ice (like an obvious nickname or a 3 digit number). I used to know a guy called Ugly that was known for wearing his "UGLY 00" Packers jersey to the club (back in 2002 when you could still rock jerseys at the club). To me, that's different from the 5'9, 250 lb. guy with his own (real) name who insists on a receivers number on top of everything else.Counterfeit Jersey Thread

    Apparently this trend is not limited to my experience either, as evidenced by previous comments. In hockey, I haven't seen fakes at Penguins games until nfl team shop recently, post reebok switch when price structures changed and the difference between replicas and authentics became noticeable. In my opinion, and I'll admit I have an anti corporate bias, it would seem that the jersey companies need to lower their prices or risk becoming quaint "higher quality" versions of the fakes that only the wealthy and snobbish buy. The market is speaking, and they don't seem to care to listen. Very interesting.

    I have a pretty big jersey collection, and two or three of them are counterfeit. No matter if it's supporting the wrong cause, or it's criminal, or whatever you want to call it, spending $30 on a jersey that is so close to an authentic that most won't even notice (and those who do have to look pretty close) is a much smarter investment than spending nearly $80 on a cheap screen printed shirt that'll fall apart in the wash in less than a year. You can knock counterfeit jerseys all you want, I still find it to be less criminal than the prices they charge for the real ones.

    But this isn't true at all. It's super easy for uni freaks like CCSLC members to spot these fakes. The numbers and letters really are that bad. You can spot them a mile away, especially for teams that have anything more than standard block fonts.

    FYP. Most of the general public will never notice the difference.

    Whatever one's position on this, someone pointed out an ironic truth in another thread where this was debated: the "authentic" $250 300 version of these jerseys probably comes from the factory down the street from the one doing the fakes, the difference being that the authentics are put together better and subjected to more QC than the fakes. The employees are likely working in the same conditions and making the same 20 cents an hour or whatever.

    We'll never know the one variable that would enable me to finalize my position: the NFL's cost to produce an authentic. Their markup has to be ridiculous.

    I have a pretty big jersey collection, and two or three of them are counterfeit. No matter if it's supporting the wrong cause, or it's criminal, or whatever you want to call it, spending $30 on a jersey that is so close to an authentic that most won't even notice (and those who do have to look pretty close) is a much smarter investment than spending nearly $80 on a cheap screen printed shirt that'll fall apart in the wash in less than a year. You can knock counterfeit jerseys all you want, I still find it to be less criminal than the prices they charge for the real ones.

    The NFL charges too much for a terrible product and the market has responded accordingly. There are tons of free market warriors on this board I would imagine this would be example A of how markets work. Chinese manufacturers have provided an alternative to the official, overpriced NFL jerseys (and we're only talking about the terrible replicas) and, given the attendees at NFL games, people are buying them. I guess the NFL is still making enough on their official versions not to care, but I wonder how long that will be the case.

    I'll also say that you don't see this same problem as much with other sports. This is in part due to popularity of the NFL, but I think it has more to do with price. NHL replicas are pretty close in quality to the real thing and are a better value at nfl shop cheap jerseys their price point. NBA authentics seem kind of pointless to me and replicas are good enough. I don't know enough about MLB replicas, but they seem to be more or less in the same boat as the NHL.

    The NFL charges too much for a terrible product and the market has responded accordingly. There are tons of free market warriors on this board I would imagine this would be example A of how markets work.

    Except counterfeiters are not responding to the demand via legal means. One can be "pro free market" and still see the legal and moral problems with counterfeit jerseys.

    grown men shouldnt wear jerseys anyway.

    Thanks for the insight Mr. Blackwell.

    Wear what you want, but he's got a point. Everytime I see a grown buy cheap nfl jerseys a$$ man in a jersey (especially a customized one) I just think he's some big kid who is imagining that he's actually on the team by putting on the jersey, like he's fulfilling some childhood fantasy. It's all a big game of pretend. If you're actually at the game, maybe you get a pass, but it's still kind of corny for adults to wear the jerseys of other adults.

    Ice_Cap's guide to wearing sports jerseys.

    1) Only acceptable when at a game or watching a game, or if you're out the day/night of a game. You just look silly wearing a jersey when you're out grocery shopping. Just my opinion, but you do.

    2) Wearing a jersey with your own name/number is only acceptable if you're age 10 or younger.

    3) Blank jerseys are preferred over jerseys with the name/number of a player, but that latter is still acceptable.

    We'll never know the one variable that would enable me to finalize my position: the NFL's cost to produce an authentic. Their markup has to be ridiculous.

    This is my sticking point as well. Artificially high mark ups are just as unethical as outright counterfitting. Besides, it's hard to feel for these same "privately owned" sports franchises that play in taxpayer funded palaces.

    And they really can't cost that much to produce. When I was growing up there were tons of places that would make "authentic" Packers jerseys for cheaper than what you can buy a licensed replica for now.

    Ice_Cap's guide to wearing sports jerseys.

    1) Only acceptable when at a game or watching a game, or if you're out the day/night of a game. You just look silly wearing a jersey when you're out grocery shopping. Just my opinion, but you do.

    2) Wearing a jersey with your own name/number is only acceptable if you're age 10 or younger.

    3) Blank jerseys are preferred over jerseys with the name/number of a player, but that latter is still acceptable.

    1) Agreed.

    2) I make an exception if the customization is something that would CLEARLY never make it on the field/floor/ice (like an obvious nickname or a 3 digit number). I used to know a guy called Ugly that was known for wearing his "UGLY 00" Packers jersey to the club (back in 2002 when you could still rock jerseys at the club). To me, that's different from the 5'9, 250 lb. guy with his own (real) name who insists on a receivers number on top of everything else.

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